Many people conceptualize time as something that moves. Hence we employ expressions like “time passes slowly” or “time flies” to designate various experiences of “the flow of time,” or we invoke clichés like “time is a river.” “Scientifically-minded” persons would be liable to point out that these are designations of subjective time and that real time passes at its given rate irrespective of our experience of it.
First, there is nothing in principle other than its status as a tenet in the scientific method that dictates that time outside of experience is more real than time within it. Hence, to find the scientific objection compelling would entail affirming the very issue that is at stake in the argument. Moreover, the standard model of contemporary physics does not conceptualize time as something that flows at all. Instead, it is seen not as a thing or a force but as a secondary phenomenon that emerges from the underlying geometry of space-time in respect to massive bodies and their comparative acceleration.
But more fundamentally, both the experiential and the naïve scientific view of time view “passing” as something time does. “Motion and change happens in time,” it might be said. But I think this is a view of things that stands them on their head. Time does not pass; time is the passage. Things do not move in time; time is the motion they undertake and the change that they undergo. The subject-predicate conception of time leads our imaginations astray. Just as water may flow but a river is a flow, so passing is not something time does but something it is.
Perhaps this identify is easier to grasp in respect to space: we might say “space extends to everywhere,” but this would be a figure of speech. Space is extension per se. In other words, extension is what we mean by “space”; it is something that space is and not something it does. The attempt to quantify space and time creates a model that shapes our perception to ignore our immediate experience of these things. Again, it might be objected that quantification provides for greater knowledge of space and time but this is not self-evident. Accuracy is not always interchangeable with precision and, moreover, whether quantitative modelling provides for greater knowledge of things is just the question that is at stake. Reiteration is generally not a convincing argument for the truth of something.
A brief consideration of the heliocentric-geocentric controversy that was brought to a pitch in the late Renaissance may prove illuminating. People often say “heliocentrism was discovered when the superstition of astrologers was abandoned for the empirical rigour of astronomy and observation immediately refuted geocentrism.” But that is obviously wrong and presents a spurious account of the historical facts. In truth, almost a century elapsed before the Copernican theory was empirically adequate to challenge the reigning Ptolemaic model. In other words, the geocentric model offered better predictions and descriptions of observable astronomical facts for almost a hundred years after Copernicus proposed the heliocentric one. It was only with Kepler’s modification of the planetary trajectories from circular to elliptical orbits that the heliocentric model became viable. In either case, however, the heliocentric vision is not one that a person can have except in his scientific imagination.
That something is a thought-experiment and not an experience does not entail that it is wrong or useless unless someone forgets what he is doing and begins to correct people who refer colloquially to “the sunrise.” In this case, he is arguing on the basis of imagination against something that is an elementary object of everyone’s experience, including his own. By the same token, however, that a given model presents a feasible thought-experiment also does not entail that it is right according to any standard other than the internal coherence of the speculative model that is being entertained. The same reason that would put the sun at the center would also put it at the periphery in respect to other massive reference points like the barycenter of the galaxy, for instance. As usual, the perspective of the scientist himself is ignored, and hence arguably the most important variable of the question is left out of consideration. I said “as usual” because the elimination of subjectivity is a methodological postulate of science so it is not surprising to see many people taking this approach. At the same time, it is crucial to keep in mind that the elimination of subjectivity is not, nor could it ever be, an object of scientific fact or empirical discovery. In principle, that it is an axiom of method precludes that same method from having anything to say about the subject.
Thus, heliocentrism is far from “settled science,” and anyone who dismisses objection on this basis thereby only demonstrates that he does not understand what science is. The physical sun as a point of inertial reference can never be an object of human experience except in imagination. In the same way, Einstein’s theories of relativity depend on ascribing primary reality to conditions that can never be an object of experience while discounting the ones that can. In brief, General Relativity proposes that time passes more slowly with increasing speed or in increasing proximity to a massive body. But it can be objected that time does not pass differently for me if I am travelling very fast or near a massive body because: “differently in respect to what?”
Certainly not to me because I am the one doing the moving or the occupying. ”Another inertial reference frame,” someone might say.
But of course, that inertial reference frame is defined by being other than my own, and were I to enter it, it would cease to be “another frame.”
”Yes but if your twin went on a voyage around the solar system at 9/10ths the speed of light, he would come back having only aged a small amount in comparison to you.”
1. I don’t have a twin.
2. This is sci-fi so it might be coherent as a thought experiment but obviously it has not been demonstrated in real life.
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Wow, amazing to see someone challenging (in an articulate and nuanced manner) the beliefs that are held dear to mainstream thinking in our times. Did you have st.michael with you as you wrote this by any chance 😀
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The Sun Spirals and takes the entire flock, the entire flock of the Solar System, our planetary system, with we need to say, Saturn as a kind of anchor point would on its own, without the Sun gathering the flock of the planets together, spirals upward. We cross paths with the Sun. Saturn would create a time lock alone of a continuous lemniscate – The meaning of LEMNISCATE is a figure-eight shaped curve whose equation in polar coordinates is ρ2=a2 cos 2θ or ρ2=a2 sin 2θ. This would entail a constant repetition of the never ending of the same.
This 26,000 years of the Sun that creates Time epochs through the Zodiacal template is Time. This is called a Grand Year or a year of zodiacal procession. When 25,920 years are divided by twelve, the number of constellations, it is seen that a Grand Month (an astrological era) lasts 2,160 terrestrial years. In point of fact the subjective incarnated human I AM enters every night, with our Astral body, into the Higher Star Physics, literally enters into Time and the planning and coordination, with our Angels, so that we meet a series of Destiny events approaching us from our daily subjective vantage point, as we re-enter space and return from sleep, back down into the powerful Timepiece of the ongoing stars.
Steiner and Spiritual Science, no one body, one subjective incarnation, no two of the same I AM can occupy the same space as long as we have an incarnation in the Physical Earth. However the Astral body and our Human Hearts are so designed, so magnificent, in that we each, upon entering the Spiritual World at our deaths, we encounter the great re-configuring, New Heart and a New virgin birth, that resets all of our potential field of Destiny so that we meet all those souls on Earth, under the great movements of the Stars, we encounter all varieties of our needed intersections with various, groups and persons we need for our further unfoldment in TIME. Only our entire debriefing in the Stars, gives everyone a new opportunity to be drawn down into Space. Our Hearts are the greatest Time Compass for Past-Present and Future Hollow space Heart equivalent gift from the Sun Beings themselves.
This is the meaning of Jackom and Boaz, that we all enter space under the great Astral field of Time. We go in and out of Space as we sleep and are totally re-made, through our deaths, given a new heart compass, which will coordinate and grow our perception of Intersections with others we are destined to meet, or we fail to meet because of our Freedom or our failure to read the field of daily coincidence and synchronicity events that bring our loved ones, our Etheric Time body, change of teeth, puberty and the precise time of 18.6 years or every 19 years we encounter a Moon Node movement that delivers a pace of our individual I AM tasks of Earth incarnation.
Saturn is locked in for every 29 to 30 years where we Retrograde and meet to see how our Saturn Obligations are coming along, subjectively. every 30 years. We are each on the Clock in Space, but we are reset when we enter pure Time Lords where our Angels and the Dead during sleep, refresh us in the Astral sphere of pure Time.
Our Angels have our full trajectory field coordinated with the vast stars. Jupiter is a near mark of 11 years, which is how we get our 1st grade to High School refresher course on reawakening our tasks on Earth. Subjective time means that our change of teeth for the start of 1st grade is tied into our Etheric time body, however the facts of Time itself are the hidden mystery of the Astral Body. You are 100% correct, that we are only able to feel time on the physical plane in space, while we are literally outside looking up into space, there is an inside activity behind the Stars, behind the Moon, behind the Sun and behind the planets, there we meet the Saturn Beings, the Heart forming Sun Logos Elohim and daily we meet our Angels who are tracking our entire physics of all our incarnations. Including very special incarnations and incarnations that swing between male and female manifestations.
So what this means is that we are skipping over all realities of our Etheric body, we are skipping over the full breathing in and out of our sleep periods in our Astral body, all literally because we assume that Dead Space that we see, is not filled with the great Time Pieces of the Sun’s gathering the whole flock of the Planets in our Solar System and we are the new babies with a constant new heart, new incarnation and new compass as well as an entire new insertion into birth and space where we get to pick up our new star coordinates and begin to connect the dots of Time and Reality from the outside. Death gets us back into the functioning forces and Beings of the Inside of our Zodiac, Sun and the lofty reality of the Sophia Star Sciences.
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